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Offline Joe Dubner

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Engine-out Flight Testing
« on: October 07, 2005, 04:27:45 PM »
I did some engine-out flight testing the other day and thought I'd share my results FWIW.  My airplane is an O235-L2C Long-EZ with high-compression pistons, a Hertzler propeller, wheel pants, and gear leg fairings.  Gross weight was about 1200 pounds.  I climbed to 14,500 and stayed within about 10 miles of the airport (1424 MSL).

With the ignition and fuel off, I found that the prop would windmill down to 70KIAS.  As I lowered the nose, it would "tick over" occasionally at 85 - 90 KIAS but not enough to start the engine.  It was necessary to attain 110 KIAS before the engine started.  This surprised me as I had been led to believe by the pundits that it would take considerably more airspeed.

With a windmilling prop the rate of descent was 800 - 900 fpm at about 80 KIAS.  After I stopped the prop and set up a a 75 KIAS glide, the rate of descent was slightly less at 700 - 800 fpm.  The pitch attitude was a mild 3 - 5 degrees nose low.  With full aft stick the airplane indicated 51 KIAS and about 500 feet per minute rate of descent -- very similar to what I've seen at idle thrust.

Regrettably, I didn't take the time at altitude to lower the nosegear and landing brake to note the additional descent rate.  And when I lowered them for the landing, I was too busy to take notes  :-)  All in all, I spent about 15 minutes from engine shutdown to touchdown which equates to an 866 fpm average descent rate and agrees with what I saw on the VSI.  My groundtrack covered about 25 NM, although I could easily have stretched that if I had maintained the optimum airspeed and not turned so much.

Next time (although I'm not sure there will be a "next time") I would use a voice recorder to log airspeeds, rates of descent, etc.  Writing on my clipboard was a poor way to go.  Also, I'd probably restart the engine at low key and use idle power for the remainder; the performance difference isn't worth the additional risk IMO.
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Engine-out Flight Testing
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2005, 05:53:41 PM »
EXCELLENT DATA. I don't recall my exact numbers but I seem to remember the restarting for my O-320 was higher, i.e. 140 kts.

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Next time (although I'm not sure there will be a "next time") I would use a voice recorder to log airspeeds, rates of descent, etc. Writing on my clipboard was a poor way to go. Also, I'd probably restart the engine at low key and use idle power for the remainder; the performance difference isn't worth the additional risk IMO


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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2005, 06:29:48 PM »
Engine (O235, O320, etc), compression, and prop pitch/diameter should all effect your engine "relight" speed.  Those with high compression, big engines, and cruise props should have a harder time than that same engine with a climb prop.

And you dead sticked it too?  More guts than me.  Glider pilots never seem to concerned that they don't have an engine.  :)
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Re: Engine-out Flight Testing
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2005, 07:40:51 PM »
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I  All in all, I spent about 15 minutes from engine shutdown to touchdown which equates to an 866 fpm average descent rate and agrees with what I saw on the VSI.  My groundtrack covered about 25 NM, although I could easily have .


I posted last year or before engine out data flights. Except I started at 10,000' and relit at 5,000'.  You will find your VSI decreases as you descend for the lower altitudes.  I just held her at 70KIAS and came on down.

It took 110KIAS to relight my engine also.  I did it with and without the prop stopped. With the prop stopped you decreased VSI by 15% or so.

If somebody else is planning on trying glide distance.  Do it over a big airport and be prepared for a relight.  I used a fairly hot day and the engine didn't cool down too much. Still I cranked her at idle and left it there for a couple of mins.

It gets real quiet up there and having a camcorder or other recording device helps.

Cheers;

Jack